ug31 Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 I was recently given an offer for an entry level (new grad) hospitalist position that would be $70,000 annual and would go up to $100,000 after 1-2 years. Am I wrong to feel shocked by this? It seems super low even for a new grad with no experience. I have reviewed the most recent AAPA salary report. The position is 4 shifts a week and then a 5th shift covering admissions is added on during your 1st year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted September 6, 2016 Administrator Share Posted September 6, 2016 How long is a shift? Do they pay overtime? Do they pay you for charting? What are the other benefits? Which part of the country is this in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ug31 Posted September 6, 2016 Author Share Posted September 6, 2016 Shifts are 10 hours. I'm not sure about OT or charting - could this make a big impact on overall pay? I'm new to this. As far as benefits, PTO is 22/days per year with 7 paid holidays and 5 paid CME days. To be clear, this isn't an official offer (hence the lack of full info), but this is the info I was given when I asked for details about salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted September 6, 2016 Administrator Share Posted September 6, 2016 Yeah, I'd keep looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewconvert Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Shifts are 10 hours. I'm not sure about OT or charting - could this make a big impact on overall pay? I'm new to this. As far as benefits, PTO is 22/days per year with 7 paid holidays and 5 paid CME days. To be clear, this isn't an official offer (hence the lack of full info), but this is the info I was given when I asked for details about salary. If it's 10 hour shifts then that is roughly $35/hour for the four shifts a week. If this is a salary position then when they tack that extra shift on during the year then it drops to $28/hr equivalent. If it is an hourly position without OT then your salary bumps to $87,500. If it is an hourly position with OT then it jumps to $96,250 when you hit that extra shift. They also need to pin down 1 or 2 years for the raise, because that is a $30,000 difference to your bottom line if they hold the raise until year two. The starting salary is rather low, even more so if they make it salary and then drop another 10 hours a week admitting patients on you, which will assuredly happen far sooner than they promise and than you are comfortable with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newton9686 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Yeah I feel like 70,000 is really scraping the floor of what a PA is worth, even right out of school. Obviously you are not as productive right out of school but 70k is borderline embarrassing for an offer, especially if its salaried and they can require more hours for no additional pay. I might consider if it was for the first 3 months, but 1-2 years is way to long to be working under market value if you have other options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loliz Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 $70K a year for 50 hours a week?!?!?! I would say absolutely no at 40 hours a week, so at 50 it is even more definite. Your education, knowledge base and potential are worth so much more than this. Do not sell yourself (and other professionals) short!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAtoB Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 only way I'd consider that was if it was a top-notch residency. Otherwise, run away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runforhotdogs Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Unless this is some amazing academic institution that is going to be residency level training I would look elsewhere. I'm 3 years out as a hospitalist and around 115k with 40 hours per week and 6 weeks vacation. This is in the Midwest to put it into context. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro What did you get paid initially? I wasn't aware that residency programs pay PAs to go through them. That's similar to doctors' residencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewconvert Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 What did you get paid initially? I wasn't aware that residency programs pay PAs to go through them. That's similar to doctors' residencies. PA residencies typically treat you as a PGY1 medical resident, including salary and benefits. So... it's exactly like a doctor's residency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted January 31, 2017 Moderator Share Posted January 31, 2017 I made 70k out of school in 1996..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator LT_Oneal_PAC Posted January 31, 2017 Moderator Share Posted January 31, 2017 I made 70k out of school in 1996..... This. You shouldn't need any other assurance that you should be making more and walk to the next job than you're being offered a 20 year old salary rate. I made more than 70k in my first year and I was in the military, who arguably pays the worst, especially in the first year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike mike Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Yeah, I made less (50K) as a new grad while working about 70 hrs a week. Then again I was in a residency which allowed quite an uptick in pay after 12 months + 1 day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted February 2, 2017 Moderator Share Posted February 2, 2017 horrible offer decline due to poor salary (tell HR so they keep hearing it) and move one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPAC1 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 150k as a new grad 7on 7off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lov2xlr8 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Location, location, location... where is this offer? Does seem low just about anywhere though, I started as a Hospitalist PA, 3 12's a week, paid hourly (so if I stayed over I got paid) with great benefits @ 78k, this was 8 years ago. This in NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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