Moderator EMEDPA Posted August 11, 2016 Moderator Share Posted August 11, 2016 JUST RECEIVED THIS! EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY NCCPA NO LONGER REQUIRES SA OR PI CME CREDITS!!!! (totally awesome as they are a pain in the butt to get and I haven't begun to do any yet...) NCCPA Responds to PA Concerns with Change to CME Requirements At its meeting last weekend, the NCCPA Board of Directors responded to concerns from PAs and to a new analysis regarding the availability of self-assessment and PI-CME activities and reached a decision to relax the self-assessment and PI-CME requirements introduced with the new 10-year certification maintenance process. Effective immediately, self-assessment CME and PI-CME are no longer required.However, in recognition of the value of these very interactive types of CME, NCCPA will weight those types of CME more heavily, awarding extra credit for these now optional types of CME. “PAs have voiced concern about the cost and availability of self-assessment and PI-CME activities related to their practice, and the data support those concerns” said Denni Woodmansee, MS, PA-C, NCCPA Board chair. Concerns from PAs prompted a new, in-depth analysis of the array of self-assessment and PI-CME available across the medical and surgical specialties, and the Board determined the range of available options is insufficient to support maintaining those requirements. “When NCCPA announced the self-assessment and PI-CME requirements in 2012, we did so with the expectation that the marketplace would develop a broad range of programs reflective of the many settings and specialties in which PAs practice,” said Dawn Morton-Rias, Ed.D, PA-C, NCCPA president/CEO. “Four years later, as the first cohort of PAs in the 10-year cycle face a year-end deadline for self-assessment or PI-CME credits, we felt we had to take another look at the available offerings. While there are many terrific self-assessment and PI-CME programs, there simply are not enough practice-relevant activities to meet the needs of all certificants.” To encourage PAs to continue to pursue self-assessment activities, NCCPA will award 50% additional credit for all activities designated for self-assessment Category 1 CME credit (i.e., a self-assessment activity worth 10 credits will be converted to 15 credits by NCCPA). Also, the first 20 PI-CME credits logged during every two-year cycle will bedoubled when logged with NCCPA. “Evidence shows that these types of interactive, high engagement CME activities have a greater impact on practice and performance than more passive types of learning opportunities,” says Morton-Rias. “That value is reflected in the new weighting we have assigned, and we hope PAs will pursue these activities to the degree that they are relevant to their practice.” It will take several months to complete the reprogramming and redesign of the certification dashboard and logging system to reflect these changes. In the meantime, PAs should continue to log these activities as you normally would, reporting the number of credits awarded by the CME provider. Once complete, the weighting will be applied retroactively to all approved self-assessment and PI-CME activities previously logged; then when new self-assessment or PI-CME activities are logged, the weighting will be automatically applied by NCCPA. Also, recognizing this new weighting process will give some PAs more CME credit than is needed for the CME logging cycles already in progress, those PAs will be given the opportunity to apply their additional CME credits to their next two-year cycle. PAs in that situation will be contacted directly by NCCPA with more instructions about this when the logging system changes have been made. In a related action, the NCCPA Board voted to form an advisory group to help the organization establish new, broader criteria for the types of CME NCCPA will accept. In the areas of self-assessment CME and PI-CME, the expectation is that this effort will ultimately result in the identification of a larger number of existing CME activities that would be classified as self-assessment and PI-CME. Questions? Please read more online. NEXT WEEK: Watch for the August issue of NCCPA News for an update on the NCCPA Board’s ongoing consideration of potential changes to the recertification exam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator True Anomaly Posted August 11, 2016 Moderator Share Posted August 11, 2016 Can't believe it. That's awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgriffiths Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Don't even know what those are as I'm currently still in school, but AWESOME!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check 2 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 This is a bright spot in an otherwise gloomy and not so awesome day!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MT2PA Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Source? JK, found one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted August 11, 2016 Author Moderator Share Posted August 11, 2016 this was a truly burdensome requirement, glad it's gone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted August 11, 2016 Author Moderator Share Posted August 11, 2016 source: nccpa letter to all PA-Cs within the last hr.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check 2 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 source: nccpa letter to all PA-Cs within the last hr.... I did not get an email from NCCPA yet. There is nothing on their website. I trust you 100% but would love to frame this gem................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MT2PA Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 http://www.nccpa.net/Important-Announcement Found on their FB page... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check 2 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 http://www.nccpa.net/Important-Announcement Found on their FB page... AWWWWW - I don't do Facebook........ Thanks for the Link. Will post this one in the office with a big smiley face on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMeOuttaThisMess Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Well hot d*mn! Smooth sailing now till retirement. Still have SA as a performance objective for this year so I guess I'll hit up Rosh Review again. Thanks for the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted August 12, 2016 Administrator Share Posted August 12, 2016 You know, that's actually a pretty reasonable announcement. It offers something to those of us who've already been going by the requirements (even though I don't need them yet), as well as leaving the door open for moving that direction in the future. It doesn't address some of the other issues with the proposed changes, but there are really two separate issues going on: current PI/SA, and future proposed take-home exams, specialty exams, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted August 12, 2016 Author Moderator Share Posted August 12, 2016 I actually had a bigger problem with the SA/PI requirements than anything else. I don't mind a specialty exam as I already passed the em caq first yr it was offered. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paula Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Fabulous! My 10 year cycle started in May and I was trying to figure out how I could avoid the SA/PI before I retire and now I don't need to worry about all the hoops to jump through. I am done taking PANRE as in 10 years I'll probably have dementia anyway. And will be retired before then. THANK YOU NCCPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMeOuttaThisMess Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 I actually had a bigger problem with the SA/PI requirements than anything else. I don't mind a specialty exam as I already passed the em caq first yr it was offered. ... SA I was ok with, I just didn't know how I was going to get PI in my type of practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LKPAC Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 I appreciate that NCCPA is listening. I think the announcement is reasonable. I like the idea of "extra credit" for those who have already completed or will complete these credits. Keep up the good work NCCPA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelseff Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Yaaaaayyyyyy! I forgot to do it this year! Lol thank God! Now I gotta pass PANRE Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetsiren Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 It said something about getting "extra credit" for having done SA and PI CME..... What does "extra credit" mean in this case? While I think it's great that the NCCPA is at least making it look like it's coming around (I hope it's not just a PR ploy, I really do)......you would imagine with all of their bragging at how great they are at research and data collection and that they were superior than AAPA's methods, they would have realized before implementing the CME requirements that some PAs would have difficulty - did those PAs just not matter?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MT2PA Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 It said something about getting "extra credit" for having done SA and PI CME..... What does "extra credit" mean in this case? While I think it's great that the NCCPA is at least making it look like it's coming around (I hope it's not just a PR ploy, I really do)......you would imagine with all of their bragging at how great they are at research and data collection and that they were superior than AAPA's methods, they would have realized before implementing the CME requirements that some PAs would have difficulty - did those PAs just not matter?! It details how what would normally garner you 10 credits will automatically upgrade to 15 (1.5x the credits) in their system and the first 20 PICME credits will be doubled. Basically, if you go the effort of doing SA or PI CME you get rewarded for it. Partly for those that have already done it but likely also to try and keep people interested in it so they can say "Look at how many people are doing SA/PI! We were right!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted August 12, 2016 Moderator Share Posted August 12, 2016 AAPA has clout!! Shows that with a progressive unified thought and acting together as one (AAPA taking a stand) we can afford change in a rapid way!! Hats off to AAPA for taking a stand, and NCCPA on realizing they are not a dictatorship - and the masses can uprise..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Yeah ...I've been scratching my head and feverishly looking for "practice Relevant" SA/PI-CME for a few months now...Was planning on dropping $350 for some non-relevant SA CME Monday...!!!Then this blessing comes in the mail. Great...!!!!Now if they just get rid of the PANRE altogether to put PA's closer on par with NPs... PERFECT ...!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmiller3 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Yeah ... I've been scratching my head and feverishly looking for "practice Relevant" SA/PI-CME for a few months now... Was planning on dropping $350 for some non-relevant SA CME Monday...!!! Then this blessing comes in the mail. Great...!!!! Now if they just get rid of the PANRE altogether to put PA's closer on par with NPs... PERFECT ...!! Thank you! It's nice to see others that are not tied to the ridiculous re-cert testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator True Anomaly Posted August 12, 2016 Moderator Share Posted August 12, 2016 The only thing I worry about this is the NCCPA using this as a bone they throw us when they roll out whatever certification overhaul they're currently planning. "Oh, remember when we let up on those PI/SA CME stuff? So you can't say we don't listen to you. Now take this new certification process and shut up and like it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check 2 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 The only thing I worry about this is the NCCPA using this as a bone they throw us when they roll out whatever certification overhaul they're currently planning. "Oh, remember when we let up on those PI/SA CME stuff? So you can't say we don't listen to you. Now take this new certification process and shut up and like it" That was my thought last night. "Here. We did something nice. Now, don't gripe about anything. $500 please................." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceBanner Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Good! Now if they drop the PANRE they've got my vote! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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