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#1 BrooklynPA-C

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 04:08 PM

I didn't see anything about this anywhere else in the forum, so I figured I'd throw it out there. At our last EOR one of our professors made an announcement that employers are looking at PANCE scores as a component of an application when hiring new grads. I'd never heard this before, and I was wondering if anyone has come across this anywhere. 


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Posted 15 March 2016 - 11:41 PM

What do they call the student who graduates last in his medical class.?

DOCTOR


I have never had anyone ask for my scores, nor even show any interest in them. I suspect they might not even be able to interpret them with out some effort to understand them...

Maybe going into a competitive residency with out job experience as a PA, or in a university setting that is highly sought after - (outside of my field)

But you are a PA-C and that means you have a license


I also this it is dangerous to directly equate a test score with the ability to be a provider - they are not directly linked - and sometimes seems to be inversely related - brianiacs have at times, difficulty relating to patients......
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Posted 16 March 2016 - 12:05 AM

I either have a C behind my title or I don't - not one person in 25 years has ever asked about my scores.

They check NCCPA to make sure I am real and certified and then do a background check to make sure I am not a pedophile or criminal.

 

THAT'S IT.

 

No one is privy to your actual scores without your express consent. And, it doesn't matter.

 

Ventana is right - no one knows how to interpret them anyway. If passing is X and you have X+1 - you passed.....

 

And it is not a reflection of your skills or ability to relate to patients or be a decent provider. It means you passed the basic core skills test. The rest is up to you.

 

Again, my high school valedictorian made a perfect SAT score some 35 years ago but was a dolt and socially stunted. He would tell people that they were too stupid for him to associate with....... He became some sort of chemical engineer, I think. The world is a safer place because he did not choose a "people" trade.

 

My very old 2 cents.......


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Posted 16 March 2016 - 02:11 AM

I didn't see anything about this anywhere else in the forum, so I figured I'd throw it out there. At our last EOR one of our professors made an announcement that employers are looking at PANCE scores as a component of an application when hiring new grads. I'd never heard this before, and I was wondering if anyone has come across this anywhere. 

 

Employers care about the money you can make them, not how high you can get on a test (aside from possibly some residency programs).

 

I think your school just wants to make sure you pass so they can get that 100% pass rate. If they tell you to aim high, you are more likely to study much harder and will, therefore, pass.


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Posted 16 March 2016 - 03:59 AM

My first job required that I submit scores because I was practicing initially under an interim license...back in the day pance was only offered once/yr in October so if you graduated in the summer you practiced for a few months before taking it.


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Posted 16 March 2016 - 04:41 AM

The other thing to realize is that the score to pass varies depending on the test, as does the minimum pass score. So the actual number doesn't mean much


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Posted 16 March 2016 - 08:42 PM

I heard that too from my program.  They seemed to be using both 1st time pass rates and PANCE scores as bragging rights.  Prospective employers only cared if I'd passed.


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Posted 17 March 2016 - 02:23 AM

I've never heard of any employer wanting to know your score, just needing to verify you passed PANCE.

 

However, just today I got an email from our practice manager.  In it 8 practitioners were praised for their NQHI  ( or some such acronym) scores for reaching quality measures.  I was on the list and so pleased to know that my employer appreciates me so much that they gave me a promotion.  

 

Now , I just need the raise to go with the promotion.  In fact, two of us PAs were promoted.  It is the fastest bridge program for a PA to be in. 

 

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Posted 17 March 2016 - 02:32 AM

I've never heard of any employer wanting to know your score, just needing to verify you passed PANCE.

 

However, just today I got an email from our practice manager.  In it 8 practitioners were praised for their NQHI  ( or some such acronym) scores for reaching quality measures.  I was on the list and so pleased to know that my employer appreciates me so much that they gave me a promotion.  

 

Now , I just need the raise to go with the promotion.  In fact, two of us PAs were promoted.  It is the fastest bridge program for a PA to be in. 

 

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 12:13 AM

I know this is an old thread but I just wanted to tell you all that I had an interview yesterday and the doctor asked me two unexpected questions: 

1. What number in your class rank were you?

2. What was your PANCE score? 

 

Needless to say I was very taken aback and just blurted out what I thought my score was (who actually remembers this?!?) and politely informed him that my PA program did not rank us. Next time I will be better prepared for this question. 



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Posted 07 January 2017 - 06:30 AM

Are you in a location with a big glut of new grads every year? This strikes me as a totally odd question, but it's very possible I've led a sheltered life. I would probably respond with "are you asking if I passed my board exam? Yes I did, the first time, and my score was fine. I don't remember what it was." (And then I would not get the job, because of the look on my face while saying that.)
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Posted 07 January 2017 - 04:22 PM

I know this is an old thread but I just wanted to tell you all that I had an interview yesterday and the doctor asked me two unexpected questions:
1. What number in your class rank were you?
2. What was your PANCE score?

Needless to say I was very taken aback and just blurted out what I thought my score was (who actually remembers this?!?) and politely informed him that my PA program did not rank us. Next time I will be better prepared for this question.


Sounds like maybe this doc hasn't been around many PA's and wanted to gauge your knowledge . Perhaps he would have been better off with asking some sort of scenario question. The only question regarding the PANCE I was asked in 4 interviews was when I planned on taking it so they could gauge when I could start.
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Posted 08 January 2017 - 02:30 PM

class rank = who cares - If asked in an interview by a doc I would seriously consider asking them the exact same question to prove it irrelevancy....

 

PANCE/PANRE scores - I don't even know....  Pass or Fail in my mind...


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Posted 09 January 2017 - 04:43 PM

Are you in a location with a big glut of new grads every year? This strikes me as a totally odd question, but it's very possible I've led a sheltered life. I would probably respond with "are you asking if I passed my board exam? Yes I did, the first time, and my score was fine. I don't remember what it was." (And then I would not get the job, because of the look on my face while saying that.)


This is an area with 3 PA programs and it's in dermatology. They know that it's a very competitive field and put applicants through a lot of hoops. I had one dermatologist email me and ask for my headshot. I didn't even reply to that one...
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Posted 10 January 2017 - 01:37 AM

This is an area with 3 PA programs and it's in dermatology. They know that it's a very competitive field and put applicants through a lot of hoops. I had one dermatologist email me and ask for my headshot. I didn't even reply to that one...

 

Wow!!! Are you opposite gender with a doc?







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