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Most difficult in terms of what? Be more specific?

 

Primary care I would say is the most difficult specialty to work in IMHO. And this is coming from s/one who had done IM/FM/hospital med/Orthospine & neurological surgery.

 

Trauma/ICU I would say is challenging not difficult. But w/ better training & mentor ship; it's not that bad.

 

Specialists ID a problem, fix it and move on to the next pt. When the pt crash, medicine folk stabilize and complain about specialist.

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^ Does primary care counts. Working in the inner city serving the less privileged n the medically population.

you must mean emergency medicine. in the inner city the poor can't get an appt to see a pcp because no one takes medicaid....my full time job is an inner city dept. we see mostly medicaid pts. Some have a pcp but appts are months out to see them so they de facto don't have access...

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I say primary care/family medicine.  The amount of knowledge you have to know is staggering particularly if you work in a family practice that takes medicaid and ACA.  This is not to say I am smarter than anyone but to recognize, treat and refer take lots of work.  I have done this for 29 years and a day doesn't go by that I don't have to refer to a book or an article (my favorite magazine is American Family Physician) great articles and 3-5 cat. 1 CME every 2 weeks.  I don't know all the answers, just where to find them! 

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American Family Physician is incredible and is only $100 a year for the online subscription. I really enjoy Family Practice Notebook also. I haven't been doing FP for 29 years, but even in the 1.5 years I have, what I have come to understand is that a good family practice provider doesn't need to know all the information, but just needs to know where to access it.

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you must mean emergency medicine. in the inner city the poor can't get an appt to see a pcp because no one takes medicaid....my full time job is an inner city dept. we see mostly medicaid pts. Some have a pcp but appts are months out to see them so they de facto don't have access...

Primary care I meant. PCP still takes Medicaid. Mostly those in the inner city. Some do though are selective and take certain # of Medicaid pt per mo or yr. Those PCP in the suburbs don't accept Medicaid & if you can't afford to pay door will shot at your face.

 

I agreed with you that Medicaid pt seek care in the ED due of lack of access. This folks are send back to PCP after they're discharge knowing that they have no PCP. The quality of care isn't the same. Is like, Medicaid or unsure pt who presents to the ED for sore throat. After 3 hrs wait in the ED. The pt is eyeball and given zpack and discharge home w/ instruction to f/u w/ PCP literally. When they final see PCP guess what the actual dx was? HIV. What? Yes. It was HIV. True story.

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To above poster - how could you fault the ED for missing that? If it truly presented as sore throat and was first and only visit and no clues in hx eg high risk pt, and new sore throat, I doubt the pt would have received any different type of care at their first FM appt. likewise many PTs are seen by pcp, given a tx then present in ED in awful shape where CT or whatnot makes the proper dx. Longitudinal hx and perhaps some degree of continuity make these dx, that is why.

 

On that note I totally agree FM is more challenging in these cases. FM cannot r/o life threatening condition and turf to someone else to make the dx. FM must make the dx (granted some immediately turf to specialist) or at least get initial work up before referral. But on the other hand if a sick pt presents to pcp (and sometimes not so sick) they easily turf to ED. And also sometimes pcp will turf to ED what they could have handled in their office - eg pt is sent to Ed for "work up" but one is neither needed or done and problem is solved without need of "Ed resources".

 

Anyways not to argue or anything. Just pointing out there are two sides of this coin.

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To above poster - how could you fault the ED for missing that? If it truly presented as sore throat and was first and only visit and no clues in hx eg high risk pt, and new sore throat, I doubt the pt would have received any different type of care at their first FM appt. likewise many PTs are seen by pcp, given a tx then present in ED in awful shape where CT or whatnot makes the proper dx. Longitudinal hx and perhaps some degree of continuity make these dx, that is why.

 

On that note I totally agree FM is more challenging in these cases. FM cannot r/o life threatening condition and turf to someone else to make the dx. FM must make the dx (granted some immediately turf to specialist) or at least get initial work up before referral. But on the other hand if a sick pt presents to pcp (and sometimes not so sick) they easily turf to ED. And also sometimes pcp will turf to ED what they could have handled in their office - eg pt is sent to Ed for "work up" but one is neither needed or done and problem is solved without need of "Ed resources".

 

Anyways not to argue or anything. Just pointing out there are two sides of this coin.

Very quickly here.

 

Not faulting the ED for missing the dx. I pointed this out to make a case for the complexity of working in IM/FM. I work on both side.

 

Yes. ED r/o life threatening condition. However, if it's not life threatening, pt are sent back to PCP or back to the street.

 

In FM outpt clinic. You get 15min per pt which makes it a difficult specialty IMHO. EM specialty was originally meant for life threatening condition. This has changed. In the ED, you see stuff that are non life threatening. The ED is not meant for URI or sore throat. However, because of lack of access to care, the increasingly lack of PC physician & medicaid low reimbursement rate, folks w/ URI seek care in the ED.

 

Most say that bc going to the ER is convenient, those w/ private insurance also seek care because they can't get in to see their regular doctor. That's why around the country, urgent care had becomes ER alternative and very lucrative.

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jen0508,  You are way off the mark as to what family medicine does or is!!!!!!!!!!!!   It is anything but boring.  I have done FP for 29 years and find it interesting everyday particularly in my setting in Houston.  We take all insurances and see the gamut of medical conditions from A-Z.  Definitely not boring. IMHO.

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the specialty you hate....for me, occ med would be the hardest as I would want to quit every day....

 

^Cant argue with that.

 

I say an over zealous ortho surgeon.   Some surgeons have nothing but the job to keep them warm at night.  They like to drag their PA along and operate like 14 hours a day. Some PA's make GREAT money doing it, others get screwed and hate ortho.    

 

I would think clinically, ICU or solo ED would be the most challenging for a PA since the volume of knowledge needed is immense and you'd have to make a lot of quick, sometimes critical decisions.

 

Lifestyle-wise, it doesn't get any worse than a hardcore surgery practice. Endless responsibilities, long and unpredictable hours, and a stressful work environment.

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General IM: 15 mins to address new complaints, preops, physicals, hospital follow ups,all while managing multiple comorbidities and keeping medication/problem/diagnoses lists up to date. Massive adminstrative work without given time to do it.

How can anyone enjoy practicing medicine like this? (honest question, as I've only ever done inpatient). But with those time constraints and multi- system problems of IM it seems impossible to the point I can't believe providers (especially PA/NP) are willing to work this way as opposed to selling out to sub specialty medicine

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