patachok Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Hey, fellow citizens of the forum! I know it was discussed before, but I thought may be we could refresh on the topic of books. :) As I start my clinicals soon enough, which books saved your behind on clinicals? If they fit into the coat's pocket, even better! Series are welcome. I am especially interested in surgery and ER, as I start those first. Thanks to everyone in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoRyou Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I have been told and since I am not a PA-S yet, take this list with a grain of salt, but I have heard you cannot go wrong with Pocket Medicine, Step-Up to Medicine, Rapid Interpretation of EKG’s, and the Case Files. The Internet – Seriously, it’s out there, use it. Our ability to quickly tap into a wealth of information from a handheld device is invaluable. If you want a reliable resource check out E-Medicine. If you just want to look something up Wikipedia is your friend. Make Google your best friend, I know it is mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelseff Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Practical Guide to The Care of the Medical Patient by Fred F. Ferri, MD I used this book during clinical year for inpt and outpt. In fact I used it my first couple years of practice. As you could see its well worn. It fits in your lab coat pocket and is an easy reference guide for procedures, balancing lytes and w/u and tx of common diseases. It was similar to the little red books the med students at my school got for their rotations. (They got ipads too...the pa program was the red headed step-child of the med school so we had to buy our own crap). ETA: oh and dont forget to DL the medscape app for your smartphone. Its $FREE.99! and has a lot of tools. The drug reference and DDI checker alone are invaluable... Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelseff Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 And of course for entertainment before starting clinicals, I recommend this: The movie was out on netflix a few years ago. Dunno if that is still the case but the book was waaay better! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterallsummer Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Case files for each rotation is awesome. Wikipedia medscape and upto date for reference. I don't use pocket reference books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patachok Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share Posted April 17, 2014 Anybody has any thoughts about Surgical recall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoRyou Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Anybody has any thoughts about Surgical recall? From what I have been told, it is supposed to be the one of the best out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyM2 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Anybody has any thoughts about Surgical recall?See the thread "Advice to beginning PA students" under "PA student General Discussions". Surgical Recall and numerous others are mentioned there. Can anyone tell me how to copy a link to a post in a different forum? Sent from my Kindle Fire HDX using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted April 17, 2014 Moderator Share Posted April 17, 2014 the "secrets series". they make one for each rotation. I had surgical, em, ob, and primary care. all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patachok Posted April 18, 2014 Author Share Posted April 18, 2014 See the thread "Advice to beginning PA students" under "PA student General Discussions". Surgical Recall and numerous others are mentioned there. Can anyone tell me how to copy a link to a post in a different forum? Sent from my Kindle Fire HDX using Tapatalk 2 Will check it out! Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterallsummer Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Yes secrets series are good for learning but not as good for studying for the test per se. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinntsp Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 See the thread "Advice to beginning PA students" under "PA student General Discussions". Surgical Recall and numerous others are mentioned there. Can anyone tell me how to copy a link to a post in a different forum? Sent from my Kindle Fire HDX using Tapatalk 2 Copy and paste the address. Ctrl C + Ctrl V or highlight it right click with your mouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinntsp Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Anybody has any thoughts about Surgical recall? I have it but didn't use it much other than to recognize some of the instruments/tools. For the most part I just read the medscape article for the procedure I was about to scrub into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delco714 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them ...whoops wrong forum. Surgical recall was probably my most frequent book. I'll admit I didn't read as much as I maybe should of.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterallsummer Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Surgical case files is waaaay better than surg recall. I didn't find recall helpful, maybe if you get pimped a lot and know what you're scrubbing in on a day in advance it'll make you look smart to the attending or resident. But as far as learning a lot and doing well on EOR exam that book is not helpful IMHO. I don't recommend paying money for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterallsummer Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Addendum - recall is not a bad supplemental text and good quick reference. Just don't recommend you do the majority of your studying from it just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taotaox1 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Recall is the surgical pimping survival guide. I would skim through each relevant section before each surgery and it helped me look like a rockstar in the OR. It would be almost completely worthless for the EOR test however, which is more emergency than surgery in a lot of ways. Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAruby Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 May be program dependent, but our school favored the Blueprints series. Not much in-depth, but a good "trigger" for what you didn't know with practice questions at the back. Our program wrote several questions for our EOR exams from these... Also, if you're one to learn from Q&A, I liked the LANGE Q&A Physician Assistant Examination - as did my program test writer... it has full explanations. For surgery - recall was good, my preceptor let me borrow a copy for the rotation and expected me to be reading it. I'm the Q&A type so it helped some, but I needed blueprints too. Pocket Medicine was useful and helped me through a bunch of rotations. I didn't care for the other Pocket series (Pocket EM, etc) - the general or internal med one was the best (i think the latest is dark green) Be sure to get a Sanford guide for ABX. My other friend, especially for surgery, was youtube :) I'd get the schedule of surgeries for the week and watch as many videos as I could of the procedures a) so me and my vagal nerve knew what to expect (I'm not made for the OR) and b) to get the pimping questions right Good luck! Clinical year is hard in an entirely different way, but also a lot more enjoyable interacting with patients :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccfirelt Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I have been told and since I am not a PA-S yet, take this list with a grain of salt, but I have heard you cannot go wrong with Pocket Medicine, Step-Up to Medicine, Rapid Interpretation of EKG’s, and the Case Files. The Internet – Seriously, it’s out there, use it. Our ability to quickly tap into a wealth of information from a handheld device is invaluable. If you want a reliable resource check out E-Medicine. If you just want to look something up Wikipedia is your friend. Make Google your best friend, I know it is mine As far as Rapid Interpretation of EKG’s , It's been around forever and is ok. I even happen to have an autographed copy. I think some of its material is a little outdated, although the newer editions are better with color pictures and such, its still ok. But if you want the bible of EKG interpretation books that is easy to follow, extremely well organized, full of relevant material, and will take you from zero to as far as you want to go with EKG's, then have a look at this one..12-Lead ECG: The Art of Interpetation. It's a little pricey, but if really learning EKG's is your thing, it's worth it. (Long time paramedic, EKG geek, and prospective PA student here.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoRyou Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 As far as Rapid Interpretation of EKG’s , It's been around forever and is ok. I even happen to have an autographed copy. I think some of its material is a little outdated, although the newer editions are better with color pictures and such, its still ok. But if you want the bible of EKG interpretation books that is easy to follow, extremely well organized, full of relevant material, and will take you from zero to as far as you want to go with EKG's, then have a look at this one..12-Lead ECG: The Art of Interpetation. It's a little pricey, but if really learning EKG's is your thing, it's worth it. (Long time paramedic, EKG geek, and prospective PA student here.) Dubin Child Pornography Tapes What a waste! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccfirelt Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Dubin Child Pornography Tapes What a waste! Ohhh right. I had heard something of the sort years ago but never bothered to Google it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delco714 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Dubin Child Pornography Tapes What a waste! Hahaha.that was clever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoRyou Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 In the fiftieth printing of the book in 2001, Dubin hid within the copyright notice an offer to give his prized 1965 Ford Thunderbird to anyone who actually read the message and responded. Out of 60,000 copies in that printing, only 5 readers noticed and responded, and Dubin's own daughter delivered the car to the winner (selected by a random drawing). Source: Wiki: Dale Dubin Free car prize hidden in textbook Reading the fine print Hey ccfirelt since you have a copy do you see any fine print, and if so what does it say? How did you get an autograph copy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patachok Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 Any thoughts on surgical recall 5th vs. 6th edition? Would love to spend 6$ instead of 35$, but any opinion on content difference? Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taotaox1 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 So this is not from experience, but since surgery recall is only really flfood for or pimping prep, I am pretty sure the old edition is more than sufficient. Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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