newpagirl17 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 So I was just informed by a professor that a new law recently passed stating that no out of state rotations are allowed anymore. Does anybody know anything about this that can shed some light on the topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lov2xlr8 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I doubt this could be a law, just a new rule within your school, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primadonna22274 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Law?! Definitely not. Rule? Maybe. Ask your prof to cite the source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UGoLong Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Sure isn't the policy at all schools! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator LT_Oneal_PAC Posted March 30, 2014 Moderator Share Posted March 30, 2014 I know we were original told some law was coming about that prevented us from doing OOS rotations in Alabama, Kentucky and some other states, but it was overturned and now have no trouble with OOS rotations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicinePower Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 I'd respectfully ask the professor to cite the specific law so that you could look it up for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsfelder0417 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Sounds like a load to me. I live in Idaho and have a rotation at the Salt Lake City VA in 4 weeks that is still a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kds423 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I am a Utah student and completing the majority of my rotations in Idaho with approval from the Idaho State Board of Medicine; so I have a hard time believing that would be law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyoung1 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 This is a newer issue for many PA programs. I don't have all the details but I can fill in a few pieces. What you were told probably does have some basis in the interpretation of federal regulations regarding educational programs that cross state lines. Which is why you were told it was a "law". This has come to light because of the many on-line programs where you can live in one state and graduate from a college/university in another state. Many institutions fear losing federal funding if they are not in compliance with these federal regulations, so in order to avoid being out of compliance until this is all figured out many programs are just keeping all educational oppurtunities within their state boundries. I'm sure this is not permanent, however, who knows how long it will take to figure out the fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swooshie1 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 If this is true, which I highly doubt, programs like MEDEX will cease to exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradopa Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 If this is true, which I highly doubt, programs like MEDEX will cease to exist. Interesting and different from when I went to PA school. Part of this is ARC-PA which several years ago put in place a rule that essentially all sites must be treated equally. If you go visit students at one site then you have to visit at others. This led some programs to discontinue out of state rotations to save money in staff traveling. According to this http://docs.accet.org/downloads/program_integrity/state_reg_report_jan11.pdf The principle driver is a 2010 department of education rule that the program has to show it has appropriate licensing in a state where it has activity. In the document they point out there is a wide disparity in state law regarding how these programs are treated. I've heard this is worse on the NP side. NP programs generally have to go through the state board of nursing while the board of medicine usually has very little to do with education. In North Carolina the BON has denied permission for students to do clinicals in the state if there is no physical presence.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newpagirl17 Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 thanks for the replies everybody :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WanderlustPA Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 My school is in TN, and I'm currently on my one and ONLY rotation in the state of TN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoRyou Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 So I was just informed by a professor that a new law recently passed stating that no out of state rotations are allowed anymore. Does anybody know anything about this that can shed some light on the topic? Mind sharing what school do you go to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTtoPA Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I was told by a school that Maryland and North Carolina (maybe some other states too) are restricting out of state students for rotations. Not meaning it's against the "law", but meaning that you have to pay a lot more to their state to make it happen. Something like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfIghter23 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 There is no such law. Spoke to AAPA. Some schools may limit out of state rotations, but that is just their preference. Don't believe all the gossip you hear (even if it is from a school, guess what... they have an agenda too). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FfIghter23 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Also, if you want a good synopsis of the laws for PA's in a particular state: http://www.aapa.org/threeColumnLanding.aspx?id=304 I don't always agree with everything the AAPA does, but if you are a student I would highly recommend paying the small fee to become a member and learn as much as you can about the laws in the state(s) you will practice in. There have been several posts on the forum recently about new grads not understanding PA laws when it comes to prescribing meds or other obscure laws pertaining to their state of practice. If you go to school in California, but do a rotation in Colorado, you are subjected to the laws in the state of Colorado... Not CA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user1234556 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Have new PA programs popped up in neighboring areas where your program has historically had rotation sites? I know this can become an issue when programs impede on each other's turf and obligations to one school's students conflict with a site's ability to enter contract with another school which may be more closely located and have a newly opening PA program. It could be possible that there are some state laws (or, more likely, agreements among universities) that pertain to issues like this one. Just speculating, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amfPA2016 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I am a PA-S in Georgia about to start rotations in February. As from being from Boston, I had planned on doing clinical rotations in Boston or the surrounding cities, and I was told yesterday about the new "Federal Regulation" that prohibited me from doing so. Does anyone know more about this federal regulation, or where I can find more information on it? What I was told: Federal regulation that all states have the ability to enforce, but not all do. OOS schools sending students to complete rotations in that state are required complete application (similar to affiliation paperwork), pay an application fee, and also some type of security deposit or bond. The cost of doing so for each state is about $5,000-10,000. Not all states enforce this rule but some states do. Also the real issue comes when you try to get licensed in that state, the board can look back through your file and if you completed a rotation within that state w/o the paperwork from the OOS school, they can say your rotation was not completed properly and therefore you are ineligible candidate. Massachusetts and Oregon are the states that are enforcing in (the 2 I asked about.) But NH, Vermont, Connecticut are allegedly okay for rotations. Now I am having to look for clinical rotations in New Hampshire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtnbiker Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I'm currently attending school in attending school in Indiana and have been told that I cannot do rotations in Kentucky (where I am a legal resident) because I attend school in Indiana. I have not been given the details behind this decision and I'm working on getting to the bottom of it, but like others have said here, I doubt that it is based in "law". I suspect it is rather a financial or political problem. When I left KY in May we had out of state PA students on rotation at our hospital. I have great contacts back home in Kentucky but if anyone has any updates on this topic please post. I will do likewise. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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