PA supervised by / answering to DNP??

[bgdog]

lol ^^^^^^^^^

[jsfelder0417]

Ahh, nothing like a cup of controversy in the morning to start my day. Ha that NP has reached Max Troll Level in real life.

[NoClinic4Me]

You just need to tell her, "hon, I'm a Physician Assistant ... and you're not a Physician."

Yeah, "Hon" will go over like a lead balloon but I like it!

Pat

[jdtpac]

Contraian's point is well taken. Unfortunately, there are many institutions( hospitals mostly) where PA's are employees of the institution and often times are managed under the department of nursing. These are generally institutions which employs very few PAs. As far as a DNP " supervising" a PA, relax, it isn't ever going to happen unless state practice acts are change to allow it and I don't think the nurses would have a snowballs chance in hell of ever making it happen.

[primadonna22274]

Don't forget Contrarian is a PA-C, FNP so he could supervise himself. Oh wait, he already does that (self-employed too)....

Seriously though, this would NEVER be acceptable in my book. Fears like this, however far-fetched, motivated me to move on from supervisee to supervising physician.

[Hemegroup]

Yeah, "Hon" will go over like a lead balloon but I like it!

Pat

Oh, but that's the point ... condescension begets condescension.

[Contrarian]

Contraian's point is well taken. Unfortunately, there are many institutions( hospitals mostly) where PA's are employees of the institution and often times are managed under the department of nursing. These are generally institutions which employs very few PAs... [brevity edit] ...

Yep....!!!!
Nursing has been around a LOOOOOOOOOOOOng time before the PA profession was born and evolved.
Therefore, its NOT new, or unusual for nurses to be the natural choices to administratively lead "organizational service lines."

Just about EVERY hospital in this nation has most of its various departments managed by nurses. Again... NOT new and NOT really a big deal AND makes sense because MOST of the care provided in those departments is rendered by nurses.

We (medical providers) typically spend the least amount of time with the patients and only interact to assess and diagnose... write orders then leave.

I don't see a problem with the current system where nurses are the managers in these departments, managing MOSTLY nurses and additional staff (Physicians, PAs, techs etc) , as long a they limit their "management" to "ADMINISTRATIVE" issues.

I've rarely had any problems with nurse "directors" or "managers" attempting to "direct" or "supervise" my medical care beyond administrative tasks and issues. The few times that it has happened, they only made that mistake once before they met my "animal sign"...