American Academy of Clinicians

[MrBob]

"I feel like I have Bob on one shoulder and MD/PhD on the other, both making vaild points...still yet to figure out who has the halo and who has the horns..."


Holy Hannah!!!!!......listen folks....don't let me influence you here. I have been a PA for a LONG time and have seen MANY,MANY changes in our profession. In fact, just this week I was told that the BOME in NC is going to consider changing the regulations requiring countersignatures from every 7 (seven) days to a collaborative conference with supervisors every 6 (six) MONTHS, with the meeting being logged and the results kept on site. Now this gives us a HUGE step forward in the trust department in North Carolina. NP's now have this privilege and we are being "brought to their privilege level".

Guess our BOME wants to separate themselves from us because we are something like NP's....doesn't look like it to me..in fact the fact that NP's have this privilege is one reason we are getting it, I assume. I guess we'll hear huge moans from some of our non-pa posters here about this, but I'm telling you folks...this is a well thought out and researched privilege afforded us by a very, very observant and close monitoring BOME here in NC. Believe you me, it is a privilege which will be guarded and protected by those of us who have come up in the ranks and we will police our own abusers here!

You guys make our own decisions..I am just glad the nay sayer non-pa's who post here are not our regulating body!

So.....I still standbehind an organization that represents both of our interests......you folks make your own decisions...this one is mine. I will still buy you a cold one, still be your friend, mentor, counterpart, peer or whatever it is I am to you when you decide. It is a free country after all.


This place is like a bar where we all can sit and discuss our differences...Me and Bandit and Emed with our Bikes parked outside.....dirty bluejeans and tattoos, sipping a cold one,,,and if you disagree with one of us we tip the cold one to you and say,,,Oh, yeah......no problem......

These are just opinions I have formed over the years. BTW...many many of you have influenced me in one way of another to think differently about many many subjects, so I am not a real bonehead.

Nuff said here my brothers and sisters

[EMEDPA]

Bob-congrats about the new supervisory laws in nc !
(I wash my blue jeans....sometimes....)-e

[themadmedic]

Bob, didn't mean that quite that way...just that I see points in and agree with both sides...still trying to reach a decision...


Congrats on the new rules there...

[MrBob]

mad..........

I know

[Rural PA]

I thought I would write the goals of the ACC once again for everyone to read with emphasis on certain parts added by me. These are quoted by one of the cofounders of the ACC, David Mittman:

Goals of the ACC include:
• Promoting the concept that the best way to deliver health care is in teams. NPs, PAs, and physicians all are entitled to fair reimbursement and recognition when providing care to our patients. We will advocate these rights.

• Working together whenever appropriate to support each other. Even though NPs and PAs are separate professions with distinct educational backgrounds and responsibilities, we will pursue the common good for both professions.

• Providing affordable continuing education that meets your needs.

• Delivering interprofessional education that highlights PAs and NPs: specifically, how we can help control costs while delivering quality care. We promise within our first year to develop a well-designed, easy-to-read advertisement that will run in some of the best-read physician journals. This ad will accurately inform physicians about what NPs and PAs do, and how working with us will benefit their practice. Thousands of physicians still do not know the benefits of having PAs and NPs work with them as colleagues.

• Educating the pharmaceutical industry and pharmacists that PAs and NPs are full prescribers and need to be recognized as such.

• Informing the health care industry and insurance companies about what we do. Once these institutions understand what’s in it for them and how NPs and PAs can benefit health care, how could they not agree to reimburse us?

• Helping resolve disputes between NPs and PAs when asked. It is time we recognize that the two professions can be colleagues; let's not waste time being in opposition to each other.

There is nothing in these goals that is peculiar to PAs or NPs. All of these are common goals that both professions share. When asked what are the differences, we all know those!

[MrBob]

Thank you Rural.......nothing suggests "seceding from the union here". It suggests that we find our COMMON problems and work toward repairing them.....correcting them for the benefit of each organization. Nothing says to create new problem. a perfect example here is the pharmaceutical problem....Hell I remember when Merck would not allow PA's to sign for samples.....there are still states where that is a probloem.....

[Adamgilly]

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[LESH]

FYI, an interesting article by Dave Mittman. I hope I did this right and you link to the article and not my campus email.

http://www.healthjobsnationwide.com/...p?articleID=42

[EMEDPA]

excellent article and I totally agree. I have actually used the captain/XO analogy before when having discussions on this topic-it just makes sense....

emedpa
an xo running the ship on night shift while the capt. sleeps at home....